Discussion:
Server 2008: Shared or concurrent remote desktop access
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Tech_vs_Life
2007-11-10 23:22:04 UTC
Permalink
I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.
Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or other
bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote user and the
local user to both be able to see and share the same session? (as with most
"remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).

If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008. thanks.
Jabez Gan [MVP]
2007-11-11 02:04:54 UTC
Permalink
Try:
mstsc /admin

FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console will be
removed very soon.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.
Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or
other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote user
and the local user to both be able to see and share the same session? (as
with most "remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).
If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008. thanks.
Tech_vs_Life
2007-11-11 02:25:58 UTC
Permalink
thanks but unfortunately it turns out that's incorrect, at least with RC0:
1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008 (no
error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).
2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run if you
pass the admin tag.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
mstsc /admin
FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console will
be removed very soon.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.
Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or
other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote user
and the local user to both be able to see and share the same session?
(as with most "remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).
If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008. thanks.
Jabez Gan [MVP]
2007-11-12 01:58:07 UTC
Permalink
Hmm...

I am not trying with Win2008, but assuming that Win2008 has RDP 6.1, the
command should be /admin.

Can you do a mstsc /? and see what command is listed there? If it still
doesn't work, I'll check wtih Win2008 RC0 on my end and let you know.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008 (no
error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).
2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run if
you pass the admin tag.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
mstsc /admin
FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console will
be removed very soon.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.
Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or
other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote user
and the local user to both be able to see and share the same session?
(as with most "remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).
If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008. thanks.
Tech_vs_Life
2007-11-12 03:30:37 UTC
Permalink
It does look like Win2008 itself has an admin switch, but it says it
functions like console (i.e. it logs you in to the console ONLY if you're
reaching a version of windows from win2003 or earlier). I was checking
mstsc in the remote--since I need to control win2008 (the host).

If rdp doesn't support it, is there anything that allows Win2008 to be
controlled remotely in its console session, without kicking off the local
interactive user, i.e. in pcanywhere-like fashion? preferably something in
Win2008, maybe a feature in Terminal Services?

Thanks.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
Hmm...
I am not trying with Win2008, but assuming that Win2008 has RDP 6.1, the
command should be /admin.
Can you do a mstsc /? and see what command is listed there? If it still
doesn't work, I'll check wtih Win2008 RC0 on my end and let you know.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008 (no
error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).
2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run if
you pass the admin tag.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
mstsc /admin
FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console will
be removed very soon.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.
Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or
other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote
user and the local user to both be able to see and share the same
session? (as with most "remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).
If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008. thanks.
Jeffrey Randow
2007-11-13 03:05:51 UTC
Permalink
What about connecting to one of the other two sessions and then shadow
the console session?
---
Jeffrey Randow
***@gmail.com
Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006
http://www.networkblog.net

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:30:37 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"
Post by Tech_vs_Life
It does look like Win2008 itself has an admin switch, but it says it
functions like console (i.e. it logs you in to the console ONLY if you're
reaching a version of windows from win2003 or earlier). I was checking
mstsc in the remote--since I need to control win2008 (the host).
If rdp doesn't support it, is there anything that allows Win2008 to be
controlled remotely in its console session, without kicking off the local
interactive user, i.e. in pcanywhere-like fashion? preferably something in
Win2008, maybe a feature in Terminal Services?
Thanks.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
Hmm...
I am not trying with Win2008, but assuming that Win2008 has RDP 6.1, the
command should be /admin.
Can you do a mstsc /? and see what command is listed there? If it still
doesn't work, I'll check wtih Win2008 RC0 on my end and let you know.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008 (no
error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).
2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run if
you pass the admin tag.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
mstsc /admin
FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console will
be removed very soon.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.
Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or
other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote
user and the local user to both be able to see and share the same
session? (as with most "remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).
If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008. thanks.
Tech_vs_Life
2007-11-13 18:30:13 UTC
Permalink
How do I shadow the console session? Are there instructions on this? I
need the local user and the remote user to interoperate in the same session,
like pcanywhere or Remote Assistance (the problem with Remote Assistance is
that it is "invitation" only--no automatic access). So far I haven't find
anything in Windows 2008 that allows this.
Post by Jeffrey Randow
What about connecting to one of the other two sessions and then shadow
the console session?
---
Jeffrey Randow
Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006
http://www.networkblog.net
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:30:37 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"
Post by Tech_vs_Life
It does look like Win2008 itself has an admin switch, but it says it
functions like console (i.e. it logs you in to the console ONLY if you're
reaching a version of windows from win2003 or earlier). I was checking
mstsc in the remote--since I need to control win2008 (the host).
If rdp doesn't support it, is there anything that allows Win2008 to be
controlled remotely in its console session, without kicking off the local
interactive user, i.e. in pcanywhere-like fashion? preferably something in
Win2008, maybe a feature in Terminal Services?
Thanks.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
Hmm...
I am not trying with Win2008, but assuming that Win2008 has RDP 6.1, the
command should be /admin.
Can you do a mstsc /? and see what command is listed there? If it still
doesn't work, I'll check wtih Win2008 RC0 on my end and let you know.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008 (no
error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).
2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run if
you pass the admin tag.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
mstsc /admin
FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console will
be removed very soon.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.
Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or
other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote
user and the local user to both be able to see and share the same
session? (as with most "remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).
If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008.
thanks.
Jeffrey Randow
2007-11-14 03:21:47 UTC
Permalink
See the bottom half of the following KB article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278845

This is how it works with W2K3. I haven't had a chance to try it with
W2K8 yet.
---
Jeffrey Randow
***@gmail.com
Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006
http://www.networkblog.net

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:30:13 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"
Post by Tech_vs_Life
How do I shadow the console session? Are there instructions on this? I
need the local user and the remote user to interoperate in the same session,
like pcanywhere or Remote Assistance (the problem with Remote Assistance is
that it is "invitation" only--no automatic access). So far I haven't find
anything in Windows 2008 that allows this.
Post by Jeffrey Randow
What about connecting to one of the other two sessions and then shadow
the console session?
---
Jeffrey Randow
Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006
http://www.networkblog.net
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:30:37 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"
Post by Tech_vs_Life
It does look like Win2008 itself has an admin switch, but it says it
functions like console (i.e. it logs you in to the console ONLY if you're
reaching a version of windows from win2003 or earlier). I was checking
mstsc in the remote--since I need to control win2008 (the host).
If rdp doesn't support it, is there anything that allows Win2008 to be
controlled remotely in its console session, without kicking off the local
interactive user, i.e. in pcanywhere-like fashion? preferably something in
Win2008, maybe a feature in Terminal Services?
Thanks.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
Hmm...
I am not trying with Win2008, but assuming that Win2008 has RDP 6.1, the
command should be /admin.
Can you do a mstsc /? and see what command is listed there? If it still
doesn't work, I'll check wtih Win2008 RC0 on my end and let you know.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008 (no
error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).
2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run if
you pass the admin tag.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
mstsc /admin
FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console will
be removed very soon.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.
Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or
other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote
user and the local user to both be able to see and share the same
session? (as with most "remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).
If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008.
thanks.
Tech_vs_Life
2007-11-14 06:39:17 UTC
Permalink
Thanks. That doesn't work:
#1. Since there is no (functional) console switch to begin with in Server
2008, the local user is already automatically booted off by the time you've
logged in (so you can't share the session).
#2. Even if #1 weren't the case, the shadow 0 command requires that the
local user give permission, i.e. you can't share the session unless someone
is there and manually types yes. (at least I assume that's how it would
work in Server 2003--you don't get this far with 2008.)

It's strange that Microsoft didn't include this basic adminstration
functionality in Windows 2008, when it's been around forever and everywhere
else (pcanywhere, vnc, etc.)--I suppose it might be to enforce client
license requirements, but it's a very annoying limitation, esp. when remote
control programs won't be updated for some time to work with Windows Server
2008.
Post by Jeffrey Randow
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278845
This is how it works with W2K3. I haven't had a chance to try it with
W2K8 yet.
---
Jeffrey Randow
Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006
http://www.networkblog.net
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:30:13 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"
Post by Tech_vs_Life
How do I shadow the console session? Are there instructions on this? I
need the local user and the remote user to interoperate in the same session,
like pcanywhere or Remote Assistance (the problem with Remote Assistance is
that it is "invitation" only--no automatic access). So far I haven't find
anything in Windows 2008 that allows this.
Post by Jeffrey Randow
What about connecting to one of the other two sessions and then shadow
the console session?
---
Jeffrey Randow
Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006
http://www.networkblog.net
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:30:37 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"
Post by Tech_vs_Life
It does look like Win2008 itself has an admin switch, but it says it
functions like console (i.e. it logs you in to the console ONLY if you're
reaching a version of windows from win2003 or earlier). I was checking
mstsc in the remote--since I need to control win2008 (the host).
If rdp doesn't support it, is there anything that allows Win2008 to be
controlled remotely in its console session, without kicking off the local
interactive user, i.e. in pcanywhere-like fashion? preferably something in
Win2008, maybe a feature in Terminal Services?
Thanks.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
Hmm...
I am not trying with Win2008, but assuming that Win2008 has RDP 6.1, the
command should be /admin.
Can you do a mstsc /? and see what command is listed there? If it still
doesn't work, I'll check wtih Win2008 RC0 on my end and let you know.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008 (no
error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).
2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run if
you pass the admin tag.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
mstsc /admin
FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console will
be removed very soon.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.
Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or
other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote
user and the local user to both be able to see and share the same
session? (as with most "remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).
If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008.
thanks.
Tech_vs_Life
2007-11-15 08:58:27 UTC
Permalink
Okay, I didn't find how to get rid of the permission prompt, but I did find
out how to shadow (with permission)--apparently it requires that the remote
user not have the same user name as the local user. (in a workgroup
situation, the local user can have the same name as the remote user, but
that causes rdp to ALWAYS boot off the local user when the remote user dials
in.)

How do I turn off (in Win 2008) the local permission prompt required before
shadowing an existing session?
Post by Tech_vs_Life
#1. Since there is no (functional) console switch to begin with in Server
2008, the local user is already automatically booted off by the time
you've logged in (so you can't share the session).
#2. Even if #1 weren't the case, the shadow 0 command requires that the
local user give permission, i.e. you can't share the session unless
someone is there and manually types yes. (at least I assume that's how it
would work in Server 2003--you don't get this far with 2008.)
It's strange that Microsoft didn't include this basic adminstration
functionality in Windows 2008, when it's been around forever and
everywhere else (pcanywhere, vnc, etc.)--I suppose it might be to enforce
client license requirements, but it's a very annoying limitation, esp.
when remote control programs won't be updated for some time to work with
Windows Server 2008.
Post by Jeffrey Randow
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278845
This is how it works with W2K3. I haven't had a chance to try it with
W2K8 yet.
---
Jeffrey Randow
Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006
http://www.networkblog.net
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:30:13 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"
Post by Tech_vs_Life
How do I shadow the console session? Are there instructions on this? I
need the local user and the remote user to interoperate in the same session,
like pcanywhere or Remote Assistance (the problem with Remote Assistance is
that it is "invitation" only--no automatic access). So far I haven't find
anything in Windows 2008 that allows this.
Post by Jeffrey Randow
What about connecting to one of the other two sessions and then shadow
the console session?
---
Jeffrey Randow
Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006
http://www.networkblog.net
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:30:37 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"
Post by Tech_vs_Life
It does look like Win2008 itself has an admin switch, but it says it
functions like console (i.e. it logs you in to the console ONLY if you're
reaching a version of windows from win2003 or earlier). I was checking
mstsc in the remote--since I need to control win2008 (the host).
If rdp doesn't support it, is there anything that allows Win2008 to be
controlled remotely in its console session, without kicking off the local
interactive user, i.e. in pcanywhere-like fashion? preferably
something
in
Win2008, maybe a feature in Terminal Services?
Thanks.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
Hmm...
I am not trying with Win2008, but assuming that Win2008 has RDP 6.1, the
command should be /admin.
Can you do a mstsc /? and see what command is listed there? If it still
doesn't work, I'll check wtih Win2008 RC0 on my end and let you know.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
thanks but unfortunately it turns out that's incorrect, at least
with
1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008 (no
error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).
2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run if
you pass the admin tag.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
mstsc /admin
FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console will
be removed very soon.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.
Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or
other bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote
user and the local user to both be able to see and share the same
session? (as with most "remote control" programs, like
pcanywhere).
If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008.
thanks.
Tech_vs_Life
2007-11-15 09:21:45 UTC
Permalink
Thanks for the help. I found out that these instructions for win 2003 were
close enough to get me where I wanted in win 2008:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/292190
Mychael Luu
2010-11-25 01:36:11 UTC
Permalink
All the above is for Server 2003, not Server 2008 which represents a change in Microsoft's thinking.

I finally figured out how to bypass the remote control request prompt for approval in Server 2008. Even Microsoft support KB947723 wasn't even that clear. It's all in Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Terminal Services\Terminal Server\Connections\Set rules for remote control of Terminal Services user sessions node of the Local Group Policy Editor. Once that is enabled, you can choose from options to:
No remote control allowed
Full Control with user's permission
Full Control without user's permission
View Session with user's permission
View Session without user's permission.

And so, to by pass the prompt in the console session, set Options to "Full control without user's permission", and voila.

More detail info at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947723
Post by Tech_vs_Life
I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.
Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or other
bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote user and the
local user to both be able to see and share the same session? (as with most
"remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).
If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008. thanks.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
mstsc /admin
FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console will be
removed very soon.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008 (no
error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).
2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run if you
pass the admin tag.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
Hmm...
I am not trying with Win2008, but assuming that Win2008 has RDP 6.1, the
command should be /admin.
Can you do a mstsc /? and see what command is listed there? If it still
doesn't work, I'll check wtih Win2008 RC0 on my end and let you know.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
It does look like Win2008 itself has an admin switch, but it says it
functions like console (i.e. it logs you in to the console ONLY if you're
reaching a version of windows from win2003 or earlier). I was checking
mstsc in the remote--since I need to control win2008 (the host).
If rdp doesn't support it, is there anything that allows Win2008 to be
controlled remotely in its console session, without kicking off the local
interactive user, i.e. in pcanywhere-like fashion? preferably something in
Win2008, maybe a feature in Terminal Services?
Thanks.
Post by Jeffrey Randow
What about connecting to one of the other two sessions and then shadow
the console session?
---
Jeffrey Randow
Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006
http://www.networkblog.net
Post by Tech_vs_Life
How do I shadow the console session? Are there instructions on this? I
need the local user and the remote user to interoperate in the same session,
like pcanywhere or Remote Assistance (the problem with Remote Assistance is
that it is "invitation" only--no automatic access). So far I haven't find
anything in Windows 2008 that allows this.
Post by Jeffrey Randow
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278845
This is how it works with W2K3. I haven't had a chance to try it with
W2K8 yet.
---
Jeffrey Randow
Windows Networking MVP 2001-2006
http://www.networkblog.net
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:30:13 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"
Post by Tech_vs_Life
2008, the local user is already automatically booted off by the time you've
logged in (so you can't share the session).
local user give permission, i.e. you can't share the session unless someone
is there and manually types yes. (at least I assume that's how it would
work in Server 2003--you don't get this far with 2008.)
It's strange that Microsoft didn't include this basic adminstration
functionality in Windows 2008, when it's been around forever and everywhere
else (pcanywhere, vnc, etc.)--I suppose it might be to enforce client
license requirements, but it's a very annoying limitation, esp. when remote
control programs won't be updated for some time to work with Windows Server
2008.
Post by Tech_vs_Life
Okay, I didn't find how to get rid of the permission prompt, but I did find
out how to shadow (with permission)--apparently it requires that the remote
user not have the same user name as the local user. (in a workgroup
situation, the local user can have the same name as the remote user, but
that causes rdp to ALWAYS boot off the local user when the remote user dials
in.)
How do I turn off (in Win 2008) the local permission prompt required before
shadowing an existing session?
Post by Tech_vs_Life
Thanks for the help. I found out that these instructions for win 2003 were
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/292190
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Mychael Luu
2010-11-25 01:39:42 UTC
Permalink
Shadow 1 rather than Shadow 0. Console or session 0 is a noninteractive session that is reserved for services in Server 2008.

Also, I finally figured out how to bypass the remote control request prompt for approval in Server 2008. Even Microsoft support KB947723 wasn't even that clear. It's all in Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Terminal Services\Terminal Server\Connections\Set rules for remote control of Terminal Services user sessions node of the Local Group Policy Editor. Once that is enabled, you can choose from options to:
No remote control allowed
Full Control with user's permission
Full Control without user's permission
View Session with user's permission
View Session without user's permission.

And so, to by pass the prompt in the console session, set Options to "Full control without user's permission", and voila.

More detail info at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947723
Post by Tech_vs_Life
I see that the -console tag has no effect any more, with Server 2008.
Is there any way at all with Windows Server 2008's remote desktop (or other
bundled program) to get a shared session, i.e. for the remote user and the
local user to both be able to see and share the same session? (as with most
"remote control" programs, like pcanywhere).
If not, what remote programs are compatible with Server 2008. thanks.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
mstsc /admin
FYI, mstsc /console is still supported - altho support for /console will be
removed very soon.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
1. -console is not supported when remote controlling windows 2008 (no
error, but the console tag has NO EFFECT).
2. -admin is not supported at all, i.e. remote desktop will not run if you
pass the admin tag.
Post by Jabez Gan [MVP]
Hmm...
I am not trying with Win2008, but assuming that Win2008 has RDP 6.1, the
command should be /admin.
Can you do a mstsc /? and see what command is listed there? If it still
doesn't work, I'll check wtih Win2008 RC0 on my end and let you know.
--
Jabez Gan
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - File Storage
Post by Tech_vs_Life
It does look like Win2008 itself has an admin switch, but it says it
functions like console (i.e. it logs you in to the console ONLY if you're
reaching a version of windows from win2003 or earlier). I was checking
mstsc in the remote--since I need to control win2008 (the host).
If rdp doesn't support it, is there anything that allows Win2008 to be
controlled remotely in its console session, without kicking off the local
interactive user, i.e. in pcanywhere-like fashion? preferably something in
Win2008, maybe a feature in Terminal Services?
Thanks.
Post by Jeffrey Randow
What about connecting to one of the other two sessions and then shadow
the console session?
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Post by Tech_vs_Life
How do I shadow the console session? Are there instructions on this? I
need the local user and the remote user to interoperate in the same session,
like pcanywhere or Remote Assistance (the problem with Remote Assistance is
that it is "invitation" only--no automatic access). So far I haven't find
anything in Windows 2008 that allows this.
Post by Jeffrey Randow
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278845
This is how it works with W2K3. I haven't had a chance to try it with
W2K8 yet.
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:30:13 -0500, "Tech_vs_Life"
Post by Tech_vs_Life
2008, the local user is already automatically booted off by the time you've
logged in (so you can't share the session).
local user give permission, i.e. you can't share the session unless someone
is there and manually types yes. (at least I assume that's how it would
work in Server 2003--you don't get this far with 2008.)
It's strange that Microsoft didn't include this basic adminstration
functionality in Windows 2008, when it's been around forever and everywhere
else (pcanywhere, vnc, etc.)--I suppose it might be to enforce client
license requirements, but it's a very annoying limitation, esp. when remote
control programs won't be updated for some time to work with Windows Server
2008.
Post by Tech_vs_Life
Okay, I didn't find how to get rid of the permission prompt, but I did find
out how to shadow (with permission)--apparently it requires that the remote
user not have the same user name as the local user. (in a workgroup
situation, the local user can have the same name as the remote user, but
that causes rdp to ALWAYS boot off the local user when the remote user dials
in.)
How do I turn off (in Win 2008) the local permission prompt required before
shadowing an existing session?
Post by Tech_vs_Life
Thanks for the help. I found out that these instructions for win 2003 were
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/292190
Post by Mychael Luu
All the above is for Server 2003, not Server 2008 which represents a change in Microsoft's thinking.
No remote control allowed
Full Control with user's permission
Full Control without user's permission
View Session with user's permission
View Session without user's permission.
And so, to by pass the prompt in the console session, set Options to "Full control without user's permission", and voila.
More detail info at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947723
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