Start menu options

Post by nk2 file
Hi. I am setting up an environment where various windows clients
connect to a windows 2008 terminal server. I am trying to configure
various things in their terminal services connection profile to the
server and I am confused by the settings I am seeing. I thought that
windows server 2008 was the parallel server OS to windows 7 client
(please tell me if that is incorrect).

Incorrect. 2008 R2 is the "companion" to W 7.

Post by nk2 file
When I am on a windows 7 desktop pc, I can find certain options like
choosing what the default start menu power button action is. How do I
find this on the server in the terminal services profile for the user?

When you install 2008 R2, you'll see the options are the same as in W 7.

Post by nk2 file
Or when I am on windows 2008 server, I can choose to use the classic
start menu. How do I find this on the windows 7 pc?

Not available. That is it available in 2008 is a clue that 2008 is not
the "companion' to W7, but is for XP.

Post by nk2 file
If these options do not translate or have an equivalent setting in the
other OS, why have they diverged the GUI options so much?

2008 is for XP and 2008 R2 is for W 7.
HTH

Post by nk2 file
Thanks.

nk2 file

2010-08-20 20:21:20 UTC

Incorrect. 2008 R2 is the "companion" to W 7.

When I am on a windows 7 desktop pc, I can find certain options like
choosing what the default start menu power button action is. How do I
find this on the server in the terminal services profile for the user?

When you install 2008 R2, you'll see the options are the same as in W 7.

Great, thanks.

Or when I am on windows 2008 server, I can choose to use the classic
start menu. How do I find this on the windows 7 pc?

Not available. That is it available in 2008 is a clue that 2008 is not
the "companion' to W7, but is for XP.

If these options do not translate or have an equivalent setting in the
other OS, why have they diverged the GUI options so much?

2008 is for XP and 2008 R2 is for W 7.
HTH

I thought that 2003 was for XP? LOL, or maybe I'm just confused? :0

Frank

2010-08-20 20:42:04 UTC

Incorrect. 2008 R2 is the "companion" to W 7.

When you install 2008 R2, you'll see the options are the same as in W 7.

Great, thanks.

Or when I am on windows 2008 server, I can choose to use the classic
start menu. How do I find this on the windows 7 pc?

Not available. That is it available in 2008 is a clue that 2008 is not
the "companion' to W7, but is for XP.

If these options do not translate or have an equivalent setting in the
other OS, why have they diverged the GUI options so much?

2008 is for XP and 2008 R2 is for W 7.
HTH

I thought that 2003 was for XP? LOL, or maybe I'm just confused? :0

You could be right...2008 may be for Vista, but for sure 2008 R2 is the
companion to desktop 7.

Dave "Crash" Dummy

2010-08-20 21:10:12 UTC

Post by nk2 file
Or when I am on windows 2008 server, I can choose to use the
classic start menu. How do I find this on the windows 7 pc?

Not available. That is it available in 2008 is a clue that 2008 is
not the "companion' to W7, but is for XP.

There is a third party Classic Start Menu attachment available for W7.
That's what I use. This is what it looks like:
http://crash.thedatalist.com/temp/classic.htm
and here is where you can get it:
http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/

--
Crash

"The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do."
~ B. F. Skinner ~

Seth

2010-08-20 19:53:31 UTC

2008R2. 2008 (with no R#) = Vista kernel.

Power options should never be presented to a TS user. You give them the
ability to power down/reboot it disrupts other users. TS user should only
have Logoff and Disconnect options. Only admins can reboot/shut-down.

Or when I am on windows 2008 server, I can choose to use the classic start
menu. How do I find this on the windows 7 pc?
If these options do not translate or have an equivalent setting in the
other OS, why have they diverged the GUI options so much?

Same kernel =! Same GUI options. Kernel is the underlying engine. GUI is
just lipstick.

nk2 file

2010-08-20 20:19:18 UTC

2008R2. 2008 (with no R#) = Vista kernel.

Thanks for correcting me.

Power options should never be presented to a TS user. You give them the
ability to power down/reboot it disrupts other users. TS user should
only have Logoff and Disconnect options. Only admins can reboot/shut-down.

Correct, I'm actually trying to change the start menu power button
default to log off instead of lock in the terminal services profile,
which are the only options available for the user.

Or when I am on windows 2008 server, I can choose to use the classic
start menu. How do I find this on the windows 7 pc?
If these options do not translate or have an equivalent setting in the
other OS, why have they diverged the GUI options so much?

Same kernel =! Same GUI options. Kernel is the underlying engine. GUI is
just lipstick.

In older versions of windows, it seemed to me that the GUI options did
parallel pretty closely between server and client OS, but I'll just live
with what is there now.

Thanks for the reply Seth.

Frank

2010-08-20 20:40:37 UTC

2008R2. 2008 (with no R#) = Vista kernel.

Thanks for correcting me.

Power options should never be presented to a TS user. You give them the
ability to power down/reboot it disrupts other users. TS user should
only have Logoff and Disconnect options. Only admins can
reboot/shut-down.

Correct, I'm actually trying to change the start menu power button
default to log off instead of lock in the terminal services profile,
which are the only options available for the user.

Or when I am on windows 2008 server, I can choose to use the classic
start menu. How do I find this on the windows 7 pc?
If these options do not translate or have an equivalent setting in the
other OS, why have they diverged the GUI options so much?

Same kernel =! Same GUI options. Kernel is the underlying engine. GUI is
just lipstick.

In older versions of windows, it seemed to me that the GUI options did
parallel pretty closely between server and client OS, but I'll just live
with what is there now.

If you upgrade to R2, you'll see a very similar GUI to 7.

Post by nk2 file
Thanks for the reply Seth.

Seth

2010-08-20 20:43:45 UTC

2008R2. 2008 (with no R#) = Vista kernel.

Thanks for correcting me.

Power options should never be presented to a TS user. You give them the
ability to power down/reboot it disrupts other users. TS user should
only have Logoff and Disconnect options. Only admins can
reboot/shut-down.

Correct, I'm actually trying to change the start menu power button default
to log off instead of lock in the terminal services profile, which are the
only options available for the user.

Which are you actually on so I can try and check? 2008 or R2? None of my
test systems are currently configured at Terminal Servers for regular users
(only admin mode services are activated) but if I get a chance I'll change
one to see whats up.

No promises, just "if I get a chance".

Or when I am on windows 2008 server, I can choose to use the classic
start menu. How do I find this on the windows 7 pc?
If these options do not translate or have an equivalent setting in the
other OS, why have they diverged the GUI options so much?

Same kernel =! Same GUI options. Kernel is the underlying engine. GUI is
just lipstick.

In older versions of windows, it seemed to me that the GUI options did
parallel pretty closely between server and client OS, but I'll just live
with what is there now.
Thanks for the reply Seth.

Oh, if someone else said 2008 is the server version/equivalent of XP, no.
You are correct, that 2003. 2008=Vista kernel.

Peter Foldes

2010-08-20 22:12:44 UTC

nk2 file

Which one are you using W2K8 or W2K8 R2. It makes a big difference to what you want
to achieve with TS installed

BTW. W2K3 is not equivalent to XP. It is a kernel based OS and as such not
equivalent to either XP or Vista as is W2K8 R2 not equilavant to W7 because of it's
kernel base.
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2008R2. 2008 (with no R#) = Vista kernel.

Thanks for correcting me.

Power options should never be presented to a TS user. You give them the
ability to power down/reboot it disrupts other users. TS user should
only have Logoff and Disconnect options. Only admins can reboot/shut-down.

Correct, I'm actually trying to change the start menu power button default to log
off instead of lock in the terminal services profile, which are the only options
available for the user.

Or when I am on windows 2008 server, I can choose to use the classic
start menu. How do I find this on the windows 7 pc?
If these options do not translate or have an equivalent setting in the
other OS, why have they diverged the GUI options so much?

Same kernel =! Same GUI options. Kernel is the underlying engine. GUI is
just lipstick.

In older versions of windows, it seemed to me that the GUI options did parallel
pretty closely between server and client OS, but I'll just live with what is there
now.
Thanks for the reply Seth.

Frank

2010-08-20 22:27:56 UTC

Post by Peter Foldes
nk2 file
Which one are you using W2K8 or W2K8 R2. It makes a big difference to
what you want to achieve with TS installed
BTW. W2K3 is not equivalent to XP. It is a kernel based OS and as such
not equivalent to either XP or Vista as is W2K8 R2 not equilavant to W7
because of it's kernel base.

Nobody said they were "equivalent". Sever 2008 R2 is the "companion" to
Windows 7, having the same GUI and options.
Got it?

nk2 file

2010-08-23 18:43:06 UTC

Post by Peter Foldes
nk2 file
Which one are you using W2K8 or W2K8 R2. It makes a big difference to
what you want to achieve with TS installed

2008